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From Tue Mar 4 21:46:01 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA14479 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 21:46:01 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA14452 for <>; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 21:45:48 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970305022811.3dc7b478> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 21:28:11 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: NYtenants special digest Sender: Precedence: bulk As we almost expected, we've encountered some bugs with Majordomo, specifically with generating digests (do we have any Majordomo gurus on the list?). So until it's a bit more stable (and since traffic isn't too high), we'll send out messages via NYTENANTS-ANNOUNCE. ------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 02:27:22 -0500 Subject: postcards From: bobpig@juno.com (James I Bauer) Dear New York Renters, I hop that you have all mailed your red postcards to elected our elected officials, Giuliani, Pataki, D'Amato, and your councilperson. For 76 cents, you can let these people know that you will not stand for the lapse of rent regulations or the gutting of public housing. If you have not mailed the cards, please do. If you need them, call me at 212-777-1366 or e-mail me at bobpib@juno.com and I will try to get some to you. Sincerely, James Bauer ------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 08:04:53 -0500 From: ARTISTpres@aol.com Subject: artist demo\paint-in N.Y.C. Hall 3/6/97 A.R.T.I.S.T. Demonstration and Paint-In THIS Thursday, March 6th 1997, 10:45 A.M. in front of N.Y. City Hall ["An exhibition of paintings is not as communicative as speech, literature or live entertainment, and the artists' constitutional interest is thus minimal". Quoted from pg. 22 of N.Y.C.'s appeal brief to Supreme Court.] ARTISTS: Protest the Giuliani Administration's street artist arrest policy and U.S. Supreme Court appeal which seeks to eliminate First Amendment protection for all visual art! Demo/Rain or shine/ Please come 10 minutes early, bring your art, something to paint on and a protest sign. Let's show the Mayor that art is expression! (take N or R train to City Hall Station) For detailed information on the street artist Federal lawsuit visit the A.R.T.I.S.T. web page at: http://www.openair.org/alerts/artist/nyc.html [It includes contact #'s; a bibliography of newspaper articles; the case's rulings; previous press releases; descriptions of arrests, etc.] or contact: Robert Lederman, president of Artist's Response To Illegal State Tactics artistpres@aol.com (718) 369-2111 or (212) 334-4327 Press kits, photos of arrests etc. available on request. N.Y.C. Corporation Counsel (representing N.Y.C. in the appeal) (212) 788-0303 Leonard Koerner, Elizabeth Friedman, Robin Binder. ------------------------------------ [end] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Wed Mar 5 12:30:18 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA22846 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:30:18 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA22832 for <>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:30:07 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970305171227.30dfca80> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 12:12:27 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: NYtenants digest 3/5/97 12:00 noon Sender: Precedence: bulk SOME NOTES: If you feel you are on this list improperly, please UNSUBSCRIBE by sending a message to and in the body of the message put "unsubscribe nytenants your-email". Alternatively you may send a private message to . It does no good to send (as one joker did) a flaming message from "hoover@fbi.org" and you will continue to be on the list unless we know what email address to remove. The names on the list were developed over the last three years from those who signed on; it does not go to unsolicited names. CONFUSED? Although this message is being sent through NYTENANTS-ANNOUNCE, the general mailing list is a two-way discussion forum, which means that each and every one receiving these emails may respond, put in their two-cents or raise their own topics. We ask that some of you that have experience with internet lists send us material (to the list at nytenants@list.tenant.net) about your own concerns or what's happening in your building so others can see how such a list works. Once we get the bugs out of the NYTENANTS-DIGEST, we'll re-open that list. These lists are NOT just for New York City. If you live upstate or on Long Island, your issues may be raised here as well. Also, this is NOT just for Rent Control or Rent Stabilization issues (even if they get most of the play). You may certainly talk about other tenant issues. As we're not expert in every area of concern, we may not respond on every issue, but we're hoping others will jump in and develop interesting discussions. It does take time for lists such a this to develop activity, so it's up to you. RED CARDS Some of you were confused and wrote to us. This message did not come from us and you should respond directly to the person who submitted the message. We do not know what organization the person was from or why his red cards would cost 76 cents where a letter will cost 32 cents. Perhaps the writer can illuminate us. When you write legislators, realize they "weight" the responses received from constituents. Mass-printed postcards get the lowest rating. A little higher are form letters and even higher are individually-written letters. We heard that former Governor Cuomo's staff equated 200 postcards with one individually-written letter. The absolute best way is to either call them on the phone and damand to speak with the office-holder (good luck) or the chief aide and bend their ear for 20 minutes. In many cases they're only interested in one thing: if you're going to vote for them next time and keep them in office. (OK, some actually do care about issues). And if you can, go to their office personally. Sit down with them and try to get a contingent of tenants from your building. It's better if this is done on your own, individually organized as it has a greater effect than if you go on an organized "lobby day" where all you can get is thin rhetoric. POSTS FROM TENANTNET'S WEB BULLETIN BOARD: >From Dottie: In an article in NYTimes,March 5, "the poll by Quinnipiac College's Polling Institute in Hamden, Conn.,shows that 54 percent of New York registered voters want to keep the state's rent laws intact...Support...ran deep not just in New York City...but also in the suburbs and upstate. In the city, 62% said they supported retaining the laws...in the suburbs, 54 % supported the laws...Maurice Carroll, the director of the polling institute, said the poll suggested that...Bruno might have trouble maintaining support even among his fellow Republicans for his proposal to phase out most rent portections this year...Officials with tenants groups among their supporters seized upon the poll results to argue that Mr.Bruno's position was becoming increasingly untenable." Here's ammmunition we can use as we write to our elected officials. Posted by TenantNet: Thanks for the info. I haven't seen it yet (and we have someone trying to get the raw data), but a phone message indicated the poll also showed support for continuing decontrol for $2,000 apartments and $100,000 income [the real threat this year despite all the hysteria and media malarkey]. This is natural given the landlord's sophisticated PR campaign. Quinnipiac is respected and if the poll says what I've heard, I'm not so sure if it helps. Makes you wonder why those tenant groups who claim to be "leading the way" are actually "dropping the ball" by not doing similar PR. Makes one wonder. Posted by debralynn: I've come to believe that Bruno doesn't care what the polls show. However, now that this poll shows people supporting a reduction in income level, from 250,00 to 100,000, this still further weakens tenants' ability to maintain their apartments if they reach this income level. They will have to fill out convoluted personal income checks every year. The average family earning this income level still would not be able to afford the market rental that the landlord would charge for larger family apartments. In light of total deregulation in New York City, this is a compromise that the politicians would want to jump on the bandwagon and say that they have saved regulations. Comments, please! ------------------------------ [end] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Thu Mar 6 04:15:45 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA01105 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:15:45 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA01077 for <>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:15:32 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970306085750.24c70c1c> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 03:57:50 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: VALLONE PUSHES DECONTROL; FOLLOWS LANDLORD MARCHING ORDERS Sender: Precedence: bulk - VALLONE PUSHES DECONTROL; - FOLLOWS LANDLORD MARCHING ORDERS - In a political year where the hottest topic is not which candidate is leading for Mayor, but rather, will New York City residents have a place to live next year, gears of debate are shifting from the state legislature to New York City Council where city residents are coming to realize that Joe Bruno is not the only bad guy in town. In a meeting held Wednesday between tenant leaders and New York City Council Speaker Peter Vallone's senior aides, it was made clear that Vallone would push for continued decontrol and erosion of tenants' rights. According to one tenant leader who attended the meeting, Vallone's aides "had their marching orders" and did not budge from the Speaker's previously announced support of vacancy decontrol. Vallone did not attend the meeting. At issue is Vallone's reported refusal to allow the introduction of a bill by City Council members Stanley Michaels and Virginia Fields that would extend the rent laws when they expire in the city on March 30 and also do away with the so-called "high rent" provisions of the current law which are only supposed to decontrol units renting over $2,000 on a vacancy. But tenant leaders report tremendous abuse with these provisions in that many landlords just claim to have done improvements in order to increase the rent over $2,000 and the units (in practice) automatically become decontrolled. It is the policy of the NYS Division of Housing and Community Renewal (DHCR) to accept such landlord claims at face value and not scrutinize whether or not these improvements were ever made, if they were paid for or even if the claimed improvements are allowable. DHCR simply denies jurisdiction based on landlord statements. TenantNet has seen, and other tenant leaders report DHCR counselors routinely tell complaining tenants if the owner says the rent is over $2,000, it's no longer in [DHCR's] jurisdiction and there's nothing DHCR can do." Moreover DHCR has exacerbated the problem by "deeming" rents over $2,000 during a prior vacancy before the rents ever actually reach that mark. It's difficult to estimate how many units have been affected by this triple-whammy-collusion of the Democratic leadership and landlords as DHCR is not keeping any records. Tenants report that many units are "just falling off DHCR registration rolls in droves." Where High Rent Decontrol is supposed to only affect units during vacancies and only if the unit's rent had already hit the $2,000 mark, TenantNet has seen cases where landlords "decontrol" occupied units on a variety of pretexts. Upon this background Vallone's aides attempted to place the burden on tenants to show the extent of the problem, but Penny LaForest of Queens turned it back around by asking what evidence did Vallone and his landlord supporters have to justify the permanent extension of the temporary decontrol provisions in 1994. According to attendees of the meeting, Vallone's aides had no answer to that and abruptly ended the meeting. In 1994 Speaker Vallone (D. Queens) of Astoria pushed through a permanent extension of the temporary decontrol provisions first introduced by the state legislature in 1993. At the time, Vallone's Chief of Staff Joseph Strasburg had just taken over the landlord trade group Rent Stabilization Association (RSA) that has lobbied intensely for the complete end of all tenant protections in New York. The RSA reportedly has funneled $200,000 to Senate Republican Majority Leader Joe Bruno and an estimated additional $600,000 to other Republicans to shut-down the rent regulatory system that affects over two million residents of New York City. It's widely believed that Strasburg used his proximity to Vallone to lobby heavily for the 1994 vacancy decontrol provisions. A week ago Vallone's district office was picketed by his constituents and Vallone was reported to have wondered what "all the nonsense is about." At that time he would not meet with tenants, but under increasing criticism for his stand advancing continued decontrol, allowed his aides to meet with tenants yesterday. Tenants report there just might be enough votes in the City Council to repeal vacancy decontrol if the Michaels/Fields bill were allowed to be introduced, and apparently that is why Vallone and Strasburg are blocking a fair hearing. Tenants who have called Vallone's office report they are being told that the Speaker is supporting tenant protections, but are apparently not being told that Vallone continues to oppose the Michaels/Fields bill, that he continues to block its introduction and his bill allows for the continuation of vacancy decontrol. 3/6/97 # # # ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Fri Mar 7 01:44:27 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA11860 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:44:27 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA11843 for <>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:44:12 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970307062628.23a74e5c> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 01:26:28 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: NYTENANTS 3/6/97 Sender: Precedence: bulk NYTENANTS 3/6/97 - In this issue: 1. Forum to Save the Rent Laws on March 13 2. Landlord problem - adjacent retail property 3. Tenancy Rights of Undocumented Immigrants 4. Vallone not the only landlord lackey 5. Comments on the Quinnipac Poll ------------------------------------------------------------------ Notes: We're still having problems with automatic generation of digests, so until we get time to fix things, we're continuing to hand-tool the list. ------------------------------------------------------------------ The transcript to ABC's John Stossel's "Prime Time" report on Rent Control will be sent in a separate message. ------------------------------------------------------------------ More on Peter Vallone very soon. Right now forget ALbany; City Hall is the battlefield. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Forum to Save the Rent Laws on March 13 Posted by Dottie on March 06, 1997 at 11:36:28: Come to the Forum to Save the Rent Laws on Thursday, March 13th at 7:30 p.m. at Hunter College Assembly Hall, 69th Street entrance between Park and Lexington Avenue. Co-sponsors and speakers include the East Side Tenants Coalition, City and Suburban Housing Tenants Association, Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney, State Senator Roy Goodman, Assemblyman Pete Grannis, Councilman Andrew Eristoff, Concilman Gifford Miller and others. Come and listen and speak out on the issues. For flyers to give out in your building and for more information call 212-249-0582, Tell your neighbors and friends! I was at a similar meeting on the west side a few weeks ago and about 700 people showed up -- standing room only! Let's fill the hall! ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 16:14:55 -0800 From: Les Wilson Subject: Landlord problem - adjacent retail property Some questions: We are renting a townhome adjacent to a retail property. Both properties are owned by the same company, but with different d/b/a's. The retail property contains several stores and a billiards hall that stays open until 3:00 am. The parking lot is a popular hangout for the people who patronize the pool hall. As a result, the complaints we have are numerous: loud music, littering onto the residential property, beer bottles and other projectiles thrown at our building, broken glass everywhere from the broken bottles, drug use, etc. While the local police have been called dozens of times, there isn't much they can do since they cannot babysit the lot all night. I've spoken with the owner of the billiards hall, and his responsibility pretty much lies within the space he rents. The problem is who is really responsible for the activities within the parking lot of the retail property? The landlord or the tenants that utilize these parking space during their normal business hours. The landlord is well aware of these problems, and has yet to act on our complaints. All they have done so far was offer us another townhome in a different part of the county to resolve the problem. No steps have been taken to reduce the incidents that occur there on a nightly basis. No signs (no this and no that), no security, nothing. Since the landlord has been notified (in writing and verbally) of the problem with the parking lot, are they liable in the event that I am injured by say a beer bottle thrown from the parking lot by a kid who is hanging out there, regardless of his reason for being there? Is the billiards hall owner liable for any actions from his patrons in the parking lot? As there are many foreseeable problems that may occur, does this increase the liablity to the landlord for his failure to take action? If my unit is damage, would this be a cause of the landlord's negligence? There are no signs, warnings, or any measures taken in the parking lot to ensure some form of compliance by anyone who happens to be there. Are we entitled to any damages for the landlord's failure to act? We live in Greece, NY for those familiar with applicable ordinances and laws. Please reply via e-mail: nessman@servtech.com Thanks for your time. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: CDillDO@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:25:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: undocumented immigrants Dear Madam/Sir: Recently, a group of undocumented immigrants were burned out of the substandard house they wer residening in at Riverhead, NY (Long Island). In fact, one of the occupants died in the fire. This is not an uncommon situation in this area. Numerous migrant workers (legal and undocumented) reside in these types of living conditions. What recourse do they have, especially those who are undocumented? Sincerely, C. Dillard ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Larry Racies Subject: Vallone not the only landlord lackey Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:47:39 -0500 In the current rush towards rent stabilization decontrol let us not forget the roles of City Council members Tom Ognibene and Archie Spigner, who were so anxious to do the bidding of their landlord svengalis that they introduced the obnoxious rollback amendments two years ago. Larry Racies ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Robert Widmann Subject: Comments on the Quinnipac Poll Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:23:51 +0000 >I've come to believe that Bruno doesn't care what the polls show. However, >now that this poll shows people supporting a reduction in income level, from >250,00 to 100,000, this still further weakens tenants' ability to maintain >their apartments if they reach this income level. They will have to fill out >convoluted personal income checks every year. The average family earning this >income level still would not be able to afford the market rental that the >landlord would charge for larger family apartments. In light of total >deregulation in New York City, this is a compromise that the politicians >would want to jump on the bandwagon and say that they have saved >regulations. Comments, please! The rent laws were created to protect all tenants against unreasonable rents and rent practices no matter what the income of the renter. John Stossel lied. The rent laws in NYC were not enacted to protect only the poor, but all renters. This is quite obvious from even a cursory reading of the first few paragraphs of all enabling legislation. Somehow the tenant side must drive home to the media that the continuing existence of rent laws is not a continuing burden on the landlords at all. The vast majority of buildings under rent law were purchased at a discount price to factor in and otherwise discount the continuing existence of the rent laws. To remove rent laws now would represent a huge windfall profit to the vast majority of landlords and be an unbearable burden to the vast majority of tenants. Robert Widmann ROBWID@WORLDNET.ATT.COM ------------------------------------------------------------------ [end 3/6/97] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Sun Mar 9 08:38:19 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA24872 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 08:38:19 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA24816; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 08:38:01 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970309132015.2fff068e> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 08:20:15 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: NYTENANTS 3/8/97 Sender: Precedence: bulk NYTENANTS 3/8/97 - In this issue: 1. Secton 8 non-renewal cases? 2. Access to Meters? 3. Social ramifications and neighborhood disruptions 4. Artists Dub N.Y.C. Mayor, "Enemy of Art" 5. utilities 6. building maintenance ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTE TO LIST MEMBERS: in addition to mail sent to the list, some of the items we'll post may come from our web-based message forum or email sent directly to TenantNet. You are encouraged to send your response(s) to the list (at nytenant@list.tenant.net) for follow-up posting and you may 'cc the original poster if you wish. Please quote the message to which you are responding judiciously. TenantNet will not necessarily respond to every posting and we encourage readers (especially those with knowledge) to join in. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Bernadette Probus Subject: Secton 8 non-renewal cases? Has anyone in California tried Section 8 non-renewal without a 30-day notice, for cause, eviction case and won? Or anywhere in addition to NY, Agard v. Cajigas? I'm looking for citable precedent, new cases since implementation of 1996 regs for San Diego Legal Aid Society defense files. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ann Dellarocco Subject: ACCESS TO METERS Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 12:24:56 -0500 (EST) I moved into my apt. over 4 years ago. I am a woman who became disabled right after and could not return to work. My LL immediately became obnxious to me. He refused a bin, did not give heat, DAY OR NIGHT, for the first two years (I became crippled with ARTHRITIS), and I complained. Last summer I was cleaning my windows and found wires connected to my windows from someone else. (My electric bills are sky high). I cut them, and told the LL. He would never give me access to a storage bin, the basement to read meters, but he gave everyone else a key. He insists that I MUST CALL HIM FIRST if i MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH AN INSPECTOR. Naturally, he comes the night before and fiddles in the basement. After I cut the wires and called the PSC and got some help, I now have a GAS BILL in the amount of $36.00, UP FROM $19 or $21. (I am a woman alone who has turned to sandwiches to cut down expense, make one pot of coffee every other day, and hardly use the gas. HOW CAN I GAIN ACCESS TO THE METERS, either to read them, or have them inspected, WITHOUT the LL being present? =================================================== Ann Dellarocco Email: anndell@rdz.stjohns.edu READ: JARRETT'S JOURNAL (Newbytes,Book Reviews,Features) (re Disabled/Health/Medicine/Nutrition, etc.) SUBSCRIBE: Listserv@MAELSTROM.stjohns.edu Subscribe J-JRNL (your name) ===================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Marianne Luhrs Subject: social ramifications and neighborhood disruptions I am a graduate student at SUNY Albany, pursuing a Masters Degree in Urban and Regional Planning. I am from NYC and am working on a paper detailing the possible social ramifications and neighborhood disruptions that would result from the deregulation of rent control/rent stabilized buildings concentrated within one highly-likely to gentrify area of New York City. I would greatly appreciate further info on block by block records of rent control, as you have the building information available. Would this at all be possible to obtain from yourselves? Would you know what agency or organization would have accurate info of that nature and be willing to relinquish it? I would greatly appreciate a reply. My mailing address is 131 Winthrop Ave, Albany NY 12203 Thank you very much. TENANTNET NOTE: You can get that kind of info from the Rent Guidelines Board at http://www.nycrgb.com. As far as we know, there has not been a recent comprehensive study as to the secondary effects as you describe them (we would actually say primary) of the loss of rent regulation, although we are looking into something along those lines. You can thank the traditional media and real estate for framing the public debate along the lines of "why rent control for the wealthy?" and also the more idealogical tenant advocates who argue the reverse "affordable housing for the poor and needy"; the broader populace affected by tent regulations and the broader public policy benefits are lost in the political nonsense. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: ARTISTpres@aol.com Subject: Artists Dub N.Y.C. Mayor, "Enemy of Art" outside N.Y. City Hall Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:00:21 -0500 (EST) Yesterday members of A.R.T.I.S.T. braved 60 m.p.h. winds outside City Hall to protest Mayor Giuliani asking the U.S. Supreme Court to deny First Amendment protection to visual art. The Mayor's appeal brief, filed on 2/24/97 claims, "An exhibition of paintings is not as communicative as speech, literature or live entertainment, and the artists' constitutional interest is thus minimal." Artists displayed provocative giant-sized portraits of the Mayor and carried placards saying, "Please buy my art before Mayor Giuliani has it destroyed". A number of the paintings depicted the Mayor's recent appearance on Broadway in drag. One artist carried a sign that said, "While His wife stars in a film about defending First Amendment rights, Mayor Guiliani is attempting to destroy those same rights for artists". Most of the artist/protestors had been arrested for selling their paintings on N.Y.C. streets. In a radio interview on WNYC's syndicated business news show, "Marketplace", Elizabeth Freedman, an attorney speaking on behalf of the N.Y.C. Corporation Counsel's office, affirmed the City's anti-art position. "Visual art...does not express ideas", Ms. Friedman said, "and as such is not entitled to First Amendment protection." The appeal was filed in response to a 2nd circuit Federal Appeals Court ruling affirming that, "Paintings, photographs, prints and sculptures...always express ideas and as such are entitled to full First Amendment protection." [to read the ruling go to: http://www.openair.org/alerts/artist/nyc.html (or) http://www.tourolaw.edu/2ndcircuit/october96/95-90890.html] During the demonstration, Jennifer Lim, a candidate for City Council running against Kathryn Freed, issued a strongly worded statement supporting artists' rights, including the right to sell one's art on N.Y.C. streets. Freed and the SoHo Alliance, a landlord advocacy group she sits on the board of directors of, played a major role in initiating the City's controversial artist arrest policy. Freed's district includes more than half of the art galleries in New York City. On 2/28/96 Freed and the SoHo Alliance joined with the Fifth Avenue Association and four of Manhattan's Business Improvement Districts to file an amicus brief in the case claiming, "The sale of artwork does not involve communication of thoughts or ideas" and warning of, "the dangers of allowing visual art full First Amendment protection". Robert Lederman, president of A.R.T.I.S.T. and a plaintiff in the case said the artists intend to show the Mayor he's dead wrong about art. "We'll fill the streets with artists showing paintings about the Mayor. Let's see if he still thinks art has no thoughts or ideas and is not communicative". [On Monday and Tuesday March 10th and 11th, A.R.T.I.S.T. members will be in Washington D.C. demonstrating against the Giuliani Administration's artist arrest policy. We will be outside the Supreme Court, the white house and the Capitol. For a schedule call 212 343-4327.] CONTACT #'s: For information on the street artist Federal lawsuit or A.R.T.I.S.T. (Artists' Response To Illegal State Tactics) visit the A.R.T.I.S.T. web page at: http://www.openair.org/alerts/artist/nyc.html or contact Robert Lederman, artistpres@aol.com (718) 369-2111 or (212) 334-4327 Press kits, photos of arrests and artist demonstrations available on request. N.Y.C. Corporation Counsel (212) 788-0303 Leonard Koerner, Elizabeth Friedman, Robin Binder attorneys. Council Member Freed (212) 788-7722. Mayor Giuliani's press office 212 788-2958 fax 788-2975. Wayne Cross and Randall Fox (attorneys for the artist/plaintiffs (212) 259-8000. Jennifer Lim Campaign 212 764-5200. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: 1life <1life@prodigy.net> Subject: utilities Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 08:42:46 -0500 Good day, I have been a tenant at my present address for 6+ years. The lease agreement specifies that water and elctric are to be paid by the tenant; the landlord pays for cooking gas and heat. Recently, new tenants moved in and attached their own washer in addition to the one presently within the communal basement. Accordingly, the last two electric bills for my apartment have been outrageously high. I suspect that my landlord has had my apartment on the very same electrical line as the the washers and the dryer --- this is not above the actions of this particular landlord as I learned just prior to the new tenants' move-in that their electricity is on the same line as the communal hall ways; these individuals are shouldering the cost for electricity for everyone's use of the ingresses and egressess of the building. (Yes, the electric company is aware, as they were the very ones to point this out to me -- needless to say, they were not very happy). But back to my situation, I am particularly unnerved at the thought that I have likely been paying for the entire building's use of the washers and dryer not to mention still splitting the cost of the water bill among the other tenants. I failed to mention that I have indeed taken the liberty of turning off the breaker to my apartment only to learn that in addition to power within my apartment, the basement lost power as well. Before I pack my things and leave, please tell me what my options are. Is there any truth that in instances when the landlord does return security deposits he is supposed to retrun these funds compounded with interest (gen'lly no more that 2-3%)?? Wouldn't you think that the costs spread over the past 6+ years would be more than sufficient to justify return of the security deposit? (there is no other damage to the apartment to speak of -- the landlord is well aware of this fact). ANY assistance and/or suggestions that you may provide would be GREATLY appreciated. Are there any legal remedies which I may seek? ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Patricia Myers Subject: building maintenance Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:38:20 -0500 (EST) Can you give me specifics as to what kind of superintendent services the landlord must provide for a building of 80 units? At present we have a full-time city employee who lives on site but refuses to be available on Sunday, his "day off." There is a porter but no other assitant. Need chapter and verse for landlord letter. TenantNet: Look at the various tenants' rights handbooks on the web site and also the Housing Maintenance Code which is online. ------------------------------------------------------------------ [end 3/8/97] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Sun Mar 9 10:14:22 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02474 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:14:22 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA02461 for <>; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:14:10 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970309145620.220fe194> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 09:56:20 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: ABC Television: If You're a Tenant, You're a Thief Sender: Precedence: bulk - If You're a Tenant, You're a Thief: ABC's John Stossel - Sloppy Journalism at its Best; ABC Pulls a Boner - What follows is the transcript of John Stossel's report on ABC Television's "Prime Time" which aired February 19, 1997. Just like the New York Magazine article which ran over a year ago, it's too obvious -- we just can't prove ABC was bought. But even so, examine the rhetoric; when a certain "big lie" (even an outrageous and incredulous one) is repeated over and over, the reader or viewer tends to believe it. Here ABC's whopper is that rent regulation was a program for the poor, i.e., the "needy" when from it's inception, it did and was meant to cover all tenants. Indeed, rent regulation is no more a "subsidy" as purported by the landlord PR machine than a method of insuring "affordable rents" as many ideologues would have it. Rather, it was a broad public policy initiative to keep the middle-class in the city and stabilize neighborhoods, small businesses and the tax base. And little mention is made that most of the so-called rich tenants (Mia Farrow for example) moved out four years ago when "high income decontrol" was initiated. How many readers noticed the newspapers the day after NY State Senator Joe Bruno called for the "end of rent control"? Did you notice that (especially the NY Post) ran a story on Mia Farrow and her rich digs? If such rich tenants are still in place, either they're paying market rent or they have a stupid landlord. Will Stossel or his boss at ABC Roone Arledge correct themselves when they discover that they too (actually anyone) can get a rent stabilized apartment if they spend a tiny bit more energy than they did checking the facts for this story? And yes, by the way, it was real nice for such "journalists" to not even attempt to talk to any tenant advocates or even try to balance their reportage. TRANSCRIPT JOHN STOSSEL'S REPORT ON ABC TV's "PRIME TIME" WEDNESDAY, FEB. 19, 1997 =================================== Sam Donaldson There's nothing more infuriating to some people than believing someone else is getting something for nothing. The reason welfare reform is such a popular idea in the country these days. John Stossel is here to point out that an awful lot of wealthy people are happy beneficiaries of laws designed to help people of lesser mean. Case in point: urban housing. And from where he stands Stossel doesn't like the law. Woman Hello. Manhattan Apartments. Woman 2 (into camera) I have called every realtor in the entire city. Woman 3 Everything else I saw was horrible. (at computer screen) It doesn't even have a sink. Stossel (showing classified ads) Finding a place to live is always tense. But in many places, politicians have done something that makes it tougher. Normally when you rent an apartment it costs what it costs because of simple supply and demand. When demand is high, investors see a chance to make a profit. They build more housing. Then supply increases. Runs ahead of demand. And prices back down. The result is affordable housing. That's how it usually works. In some 200 American cities, politicians to protect poor people pass laws that control rent increases, laws that try to protect us from the cruelties of the market have unintended side effects. [photo of lady in fur coat, Central Park West building] Look at what's happened here in the city where I live, This is some of New York's valuable real estate. Does this look like an area that has to be protected from market cruelties? If you could find a 5th Avenue apartment on a floor this high with this spectacular view, the rent would be more than $10,000 a month. Alastair Cook has this view. Remember him from Masterpiece Theater. Cook (clip from Masterpiece Theater) I'm Alastair Cook Stossel [showing photo of Cook's building] Cook lives in a large apartment on the top floor in this building. But he doesn't have to pay the $10,000 a month you'd have to pay, He pays less than a fifth that. Wouldn't you like to pay less than a fifth of your rent or your mortgage? Cook pays less because he scored. He was lucky enough to live in this fashionable building at a time when politicians, to help poor people, regulated the rents. Williams I think he's a thief! Stossel Economist Walter Williams. A thief? Williams Yes. He's using government to take what belongs to one person and give it to him. That is, if there were no rent controls he would have to pay the market price. But, he's not paying market price. Stossel But he's not breaking any law. Williams But laws don't establish morality. Stossel Cook didn't ask for any special breaks. The system just gives it. Remember the Mayflower Madam? Sidney Biddle Barrows made lots money running a brothel. She pays about half what you'd have to pay for her apartment. Lots of politicians, rich businessmen and celebrities benefit from rent controls meant for the poor. We usually find out about them after they've been exposed. [showing shots of former Mayor Ed Koch, Carly Simon, runway model] Supermodel Kim Alexis lived under rent protection, singer Carly Simon and fashion designer Arnold Scassi when he put his apartment in Architectural Digest [showing apt.], he didn't mention he was getting a rent break meant for the needy. We've been trying for weeks to get inside a wealthy person's rent controlled apartment but it's virtually impossible. People just laughed and said "no way." We can show you Mia Farrow's old rent controlled apartment because Woody Allen shot the movie "Hannah and Her Sisters" here [shot of Mia Farrow], The rent. A third of what you and I would have to pay on the open market. It's bad enough, that rent controls let insiders get special deals but the bigger, unintended consequence of the laws is that apartments left on the free market cost more. Newcomers pay inflated rents because cities with rent controls tend to have less housing. Where there's rent controls, landlords don't want to build. In unregulated cities like Dallas and Chicago, lots of apartments are available. In rent controlled cities like New York you have to bribe someone to get an apartment. Man You can pay brokers under the table sometimes. Woman But, I would never do that. Stossel [showing Bronx slums] Finally, the most destructive unintended consequence of rent control is that some landlords say, "If I can't raise the rent, I won't make repairs." And they don't. Williams Short of aerial bombardment the best way to destroy a city is the rent controls. [shots of abandoned housing] Stossel Rent controls is a big reason many landlords abandon their building. Just walk away from their investment. You see Acres of it here in New York. All this led some opinion makers to have doubts. It led some politicians to question the wisdom of what they had done. Two years ago, Massachusetts decided to end rent control. Tucker People are building housing now in Boston for the first time in 20 years. Stossel Author William Tucker who wrote this book about housing policy [shot of book jacket: "The Excluded Americans"] says it turned out that only 6% of people getting rent protection in Massachusetts were poor. These people are now getting subsidies. Tucker It would be a very easy thing to subsidize all the people in any city that need a little help in paying their rent. Instead you impose this blanket system that ruins the housing market, benefits all kinds of people who don't need it and then say. "Oh there's a housing crisis." Stossel [showing slums] That's what we have in New York City and other places where rents are still protected. While the privileged, the insiders, those who know how to work the system, get to freeload. And that's how it usually works. Donaldson New York City did take some steps in 1993 to decontrol luxury apartments for tenants with incomes over $250,000 a year. [END] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Mon Mar 10 23:30:42 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA24331 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:30:42 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA24317 for <>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:30:32 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970311041240.38975820> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:12:40 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: NYC Housing Committee meets Tuesday 3/11/97 Sender: Precedence: bulk NYTENANTS ALERT - Well we know it's late, but maybe some of you will see this and go. - The NYC Housing Committee will have a hearing on rent regulations. Come and support the repeal of Vacancy Decontrol (the Michels/Fields bill) that Peter Vallone and the landlords are blocking. If you can, come early (noon) or if not then, then later in the afternoon after work to keep tenants there all day long if necessary! When: Tuesday, March 11, 1997 (possibly continued on the 12th) Where: City Hall, Public Hearing Chamber Time: 1:00 p.m. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Tue Mar 11 04:09:21 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA19494 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:09:21 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA19444 for <>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:09:04 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970311085111.2777e15e> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 03:51:11 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: NYTENANTS 3/10/97 Sender: Precedence: bulk NYTENANTS 3/10/97 - In this issue: 1. Re: ABC's John Stossel: If you're a NYC tenant, you're a thief! 2. Re: Peter Vallone Pushes Decontrol 3. Re: Boycott of Joe Bruno's Saratoga Springs & other politics 4. Lease Renewal Question 5. Landlord Access 6. Re: Access to Meters ------------------------------------------------------------------ ABC's John Stossel: If you're a NYC tenant, you're a thief! ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 12:10:24 -0800 From: Marcia Lemmon Subject: Re: ABC Television: If You're a Tenant, You're a Thief Regarding the John Stossel PrimeTime Live, one should make their feelings on this story know to the producers of same. From checking out ABC's website , you can see that Phyllis McGrady is the Executive Producer of the show. They also have a comment page which I suggest all concerned fill-out and comment to Ms. McGrady and John Stossel on!!! Perhaps they should change the title to read "If you're the media, you can tell half-truths and inaccuracy's and (try to) get away with it..." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Re: Peter Vallone Pushes Decontrol ------------------------------------------------------------------ Subj: Re: Vallone Pushes Decontrol; Follows Landlord Marching Orders Date: 97-03-09 11:53:01 EST From: poopoo@ix.netcom.com (Robert Levy) This is why, after 36 years, I left New York for good. All of the City's landlords are greedy pigs and should be castrated! ------------------------------------------------------------------ Re: Boycott of Joe Bruno's Saratoga Springs & other politics ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Hilton7833@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 20:39:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: BOYCOTTS NEED IMMEDIATE ORGANIZATION OF BOYCOTTS TO PRESERVE RENT LAWS SUCH AS VACATIONS AND TOURISM IN SARATOGA,NY [BRUNO'S] PLAYGROUND AND OF ABC AND THE PRIMETIME SPONSERS FOR AIRING STOSSEL'S DISTORTED AND INACCURATE RENT CONTROL SEGMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 97 19:04 EST From: Barbara Robey Subject: Boycott Saratoga Springs If you wish to write to the Chamber of Commerce of Saratoga Springs (the area that Joseph Bruno represents) and tell them about the proposed boycott of the area by rent controlled and stabilized tenants here in NYC and around the state the address is SARATOGA SPRINGS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 494 BROADWAY SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. 12866 It might not hurt to mention that not only would the boycott be by the millions of occupants of the apartments, but also by their friends and relatives and other supporters. Barbara ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:29:15 PST Subject: Rent Control & Stabilization Apartment Dweller Statistics From: jamesy@juno.com (James Yeargin) I need to write to several politicians regarding preserving and upgrading rent protections in NYC rental housing but I do NOT have statistics to suport the continuance of these laws. I would also like statistics on landlords supporting my pro - rent regulation position: things like 12% of the landlords own 60% of the NYC housing stock; X% of NYC apartment stock is being held off the market; the average yearly income of a rent controlled/stabilized apartment occuupant is $21,000; etc. Is any of this accurate? I would suggest circulating a NYC Rent Regulated Apartment Fact Sheet (or some such title) to support our position. Does anyone have statistics on campaign contributions by large NYC landlords? I would also suggest circulating a Political Pressure Point Email Address List showing key politicians' positions and email address: to wit: Every State Senator is reached at ...@SENATE.STATE.NY.US BRUNO@SENATE.STATE.NY.US GOODMAN@SENATE.STATE.NY.US (and all others) follow suit, using full surname. Every State Assembly member is reached ...@assembly.state.ny.us (note, however, each name is crunched differently, ie; gottfrr@assembly.state.ny.us for Richard Gottfried hikindd@assembly.state.ny.us for Dov Hikind speaker@assembly.state.ny.us for Assembly Speaker Shel Silver bragman@assembly.state.ny.us for Michael J. Bragman (majority leader) Best regards & keep up the good work & tactics. James Yeargin ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lease Renewal Question ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gne@ix.netcom.com (Grace Testani) Subject: Lease Renewal Question Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 17:45:19 GMT My lease is up for renewal on April 30th. I have lived here since 1980. We (the tenants) have just recv'ed an MCI rent increase attached to the rent (in Jan for Nov & Dec and Jan). When the LL sent the lease, he included a rider which says: ### "The following rider should be attached to and made part of any lease executed for vacancy or renewal. RIDER FOR PENDING MCI APPLICATION Rider attached to and forming part of the lease dated 12/12/96 between ______ (and this is left blank) agents for the landlord, and _______ (my last name here) for apt # ___ (my apt # here) located in the building at ___ (address here). DOCKET NUMBER: New Application This is to inform the tenant that an application for a rent increase based on an application for a Major Capital Improvement or Hardship Adjustment is pending before the New York State Division of Housing and Community Renewal (DHCR). The tenant is bound by an Order of DHCR for a rent increase based on this pending applications." ### It is not signed by anyone nor is it dated -- it just says the landlord's company name . MY QUESTION: Is this legal to add such a general rider? And Not indicate which docket number we're talking about? Specially since I just got a rent increase because of an MCI award to the landlord? How should I handle this? Thanks for your help. TenantNet: This is a standard notice (it's not a rider no matter what they say) to new tenants that an MCI is pending. If you were here when the MCI was applied for, it's not necessary for you as you've already (I assume) had notice of the MCI proceeding and have had an opportunity to challenge it. This is for new tenants who have no notice or knowledge of the pending MCI application. If the MCI is approved, without the rider on new vacancy leases, the owner cannot collect the MCI from new tenants until the following lease renewal period. With the rider, he can collect from the new tenant immediately. If you've been there since 1980, you can ignore it. The standard language on a rent stabilized renewal form (i.e., "the rent can be changed by an order of DHCR or the RGB" covers that already.) I would ignore it and toss it and not sign or return it; chances are the owner is just trying to cover his ass for new tenants. But make sure this is not for a second pending MCI. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Landlord Access ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:01:16 -0500 (EST) From: Marie Subject: Landlord Access I moved into my current apartment on February 22. When the landlord was giving me the keys shortly before the move-in date, he said to me, "Oh, by the way, I like to come in on Mondays to get things done." I told him I'd rather he didn't come into the apartment while I'm not there, and that I know how to work a screwdriver. And then it turned into a bit of a Thing, him becoming very curious about why I wouldn't want him to come in here -- I think he was thinking I was in the drug business or something similar. Really it's just a privacy issue -- I just don't want to have anyone poking around my territory. And a security issue. But he took this like I was being totally unreasonable. I saw that it says on my lease that I have to allow access at "reasonable times". To me anytime that I am not in the apartment is Unreasonable. Or is it just me? And do I have the right to keep him out? People have suggested changing the locks, but that I think is illegal -- I have to allow him entrance in case of an emergency situation. What's the final word on all of this? Marie TenantNet: Yes, in emergencies they must have access, and the law does specify "reasonable times" but it also says (or implies) for a legitimate purpose (i.e., making repairs or inspection) and with advance notice (usually 24 hours and you can demand that in writing). People are entitled to privacy. Reasonable times means business hours or early evening (if you agree). "Reasonable" is not three in the morning or 8:00 am Sunday mornings. But if he has a legitimate purpose and gives advance notice (and you can counter with an alternative) for what would be considered a reasonable time, you may have to adjust your schedule to allow him access. You can maintain control of this process, but keep things in perspective. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Re: Access to Meters ------------------------------------------------------------------ Previously, Ann Dellarocco stated: >Last summer I was cleaning my windows and found wires connected to my >windows from someone else. (My electric bills are sky high). I cut them, >and told the LL. He would never give me access to a storage bin, the >basement to read meters, but he gave everyone else a key. He insists that >I MUST CALL HIM FIRST if i MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH AN INSPECTOR. >Naturally, he comes the night before and fiddles in the basement. >After I cut the wires and called the PSC and got some help, I now have a >GAS BILL in the amount of $36.00, UP FROM $19 or $21. (I am a woman alone >who has turned to sandwiches to cut down expense, make one pot of coffee >every other day, and hardly use the gas. >HOW CAN I GAIN ACCESS TO THE METERS, either to read them, or have them >inspected, WITHOUT the LL being present? TenantNet: Our crack Con Ed contact reports: She needs to call the customer service number on her bill and tell the rep that she believes her gas meter has been tampered with because the bills have practically doubled overnight, and that she'd like the Security Services department look into it immediately. If the rep says that it's probably a leak, she should tell him that her landlord has already been caught tampering with the electric meter, and politely insist that Security Services get involved. She should also tell them that the landlord will make it difficult to gain access. Even if all they want to do is send someone to check for a leak, that's okay, because they'll call Security Services if any of the piping looks fishy I'm sure the rep will be helpful; when these jokers divert gas lines it's much more dangerous than when they mess with the electricity. If the rep isn't helpful, [let TenantNet know and we'll pass it along to our Con Ed contact to see if we can get a better response.] ------------------------------------------------------------------ [end 3/10/97] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Wed Mar 12 14:07:43 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA20257 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:02:57 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA20211 for <>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:02:39 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970312064444.0e1f0092> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:44:44 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: NYTENANTS 3/11/97 Sender: Precedence: bulk NYTENANTS 3/11/97 - In this issue: 1. City Council Housing Committee meeting 3/11/97 2. Reader reaction to ABC John Stossel's report 3. Comment on Landlord Access for repairs ------------------------------------------------------------------ City Council Housing Committee meeting 3/11/97 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:16:06 -0500 From: glove@thing.net Subject: Re: NYC Housing Committee meets Tuesday 3/11/97 Well -- i just returned from City Hall, Public Hearing Chamber where i attended the public hearing on rent regulations and vacancy decontrol. I can only describe it as a circus of marginalized people pleading for their futures before a well heeled ringmaster court of council. If you expect to see any rights of the majority recognized by City Hall i suggest you take a moment now, right now, to write a deeply focused letter to Archie Spigner. And, this is just your first step. It's going to be a long knock-down drag-out conflict, get used to it, or get used to paying 500% inflationary rates on the roof over your head over the next three years. Writing a letter now means having some cash left over for health care or education or food and clothing in the year 2000. If you don't take action you don't deserve to sympathize. Honorable Archie Spigner City Hall New York, New York 10001 212-788-7069 They will probably read your letter, but volume is all you, the public, really has to fight with. Do not delay. I heard there will be a private hearing behind closed doors around the end of the week. I don't think they care about you very much from their behaviour. You'd be wise to let them know you're out there. TENANTNET: We've heard Spigner might face a challenge for re-election. Perhaps tenant support for the challenger (if deserved) might knock some sense into the Honorable Mr. Spigner. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Reader reaction to ABC John Stossel's report ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 06:45:32 -0500 From: "HILTON OR JUNE W. SIEGEL" After reading the text of ABC's Primetime program and John Stossel's irresponsible report titled "If You're a Tenant, You're a Thief", I think tenants should make it known to the program's sponsers that we intend to boycott their products. If anyone can provide a list of the sponsers with addresses, telephone numbers and/or e-mail addresses, we can individually let the sponsers know how we feel. TENANTNET: Stossel's segment on ABC's "Prime Time" February 19 was not entitled "If You're a Tenant, You're a Thief". That was the title of our message describing the essence of Stossel's report. We're not sure if Stossel's report actually had a title or not. We regret if that caused any confusion. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Subj: Stossel/Rent Control Date: 97-02-22 02:50:55 EST From: an anonymous poster on the net to ABC I'd like to comment on your broadcast last night, in particular John Stossel's piece on rent control "scams". I know that tabloid television is the yellow journalism of our age, but it's rare that I've seen a report so filled with half-truths, unfounded accusations, and general misinformation. I find this particularly painful since I'm a great fan of John Stossel's. I admit to an indecent amount of enjoyment when he puts some pompous bureaucrat or activist in the frying pan, and they pretty generally deserve to be there. He always has the common sense facts to back up his assertions. But last night he seemed to leave fact finding behind. Is he simply angry because his neighbor is paying less in rent than he is? With all of the shouting about rich creeps who are scamming the system, it was not difficult but rather impossible to pick out any facts. First and foremost, he never even explained to the probably befuddled public here in flyover country (us folks who don't have to live on top of each other and fight for housing) what a rent control law is. One sentence explaining that the basic idea behind this, for good or ill, is that a landlord can only raise the rent by a set amount each year until and unless a tenant moves out would have cleared up just what he was saying. Instead, we were left scratching our heads, wondering just how all these rich monsters were cheating the government or the system or somebody. The upshot was that Alistair Cooke, who has lived in the same building in New York for many years and therefore has only had his rent jacked up by a certain amount, is now a "rent control cheat," for the unforgivable crime of simply not moving since the law was passed. No doubt his landlord is rubbing his hands together, waiting for the dear old man to die so that he can send the rent through the roof, but this hardly makes Cooke a cheat or crook of any variety. In my opinion, it casts a darker light on the owner. Though I think it's a terrible idea that only drives up rents and empties neighborhoods, many poor and middle class Americans have benefitted from rent control, including me for the six years I lived in Los Angeles. I'm not a crook, and neither is anybody else who happens, by the vicissitudes of fate, to come out ahead in this. Rally to change the law if you will, but do it on the basis of the facts. I thought John Stossel was above spewing out hatred of the "rich", hoping to blind his listeners to any of the inconvenient facts. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Subj: Stossel/Rent Control From: TenantNet to ABC (and followup to the previous message) As a followup to the previous message, many in New York (including this former Midwesterner) believe ABC News was "bought" in the same manner an almost identical New York Magazine article reported on Rent Control (we call it rent regulation) over a year ago. This is part of the real estate's industry gearing up their public relation's campaign (and boasted by the Rent Stabilization Assn., the landlord trade group). Stossel repeated time after time that the program was meant for the poor, i.e., the "needy" which ignores its beginning in 1943 and to this day it's a market-wide system affecting both poor and less-poor. SImply put, it was an effort to keep the middle-class in the city, to keep the neigborhoods stable and the tax-base viable. The system never was intended to be a program for the "needy". Rent Regulation has paid off in New York unlike cities like Detroit which never had any form of rent control, never took any effort to keep the middle-class in the city, and as a result, is nothing but a burned-out shell. Then Stossel's illogic wants you to believe on one hand that all these rich people are ripping off the poor little landlord when a) 78% of the units in NYC are owned by 12% of the landlords (people like Helmsley and Trump) and b) the largest concentration of Rent Control units in NYC are in the Upper East Side, which just happens to be a very nice neighborhood. If Rent Control is so bad, then why is the Upper East Side not similar to those pictures Stossel showed of the burned-out slums? Abandonment of housing is a complex issue, but not one caused by Rent Control. Look at things like zoning, finance, speculation and other factors. Unfortunately they aren't sexy enough issues for a publicity-hound like Stossel and it might force Roone Arledge to actually think. Stossel didn't mention that the system is open to all -- even him. It's not a matter of being lucky enough to have gotten the deal in the 1940's or 1950's and staying there for 40 years. You can get Rent Stabilized units today. There's 1.2 million of them. Nor did Stossel mention that most of the rich folk -- Mia Farrow, Carly Simon and others (representing 1/2 of one percent of all rent regulated tenants) moved out in 1993 when the laws changed deregulating units whose tenants made over $250,000. If Alistair Cook still lives in his unit, then either he's paying market rent or has a stupid landlord. On the other hand, how do we know that Cook is that rich? Does Stossel know? We also note that Stossel's report failed to interview a single opposite viewpoint. If this is a News Department story, shouldn't a tenant advocate at least been given an opportunity to balance the reportage? Apparently not as Stossel's no journalist. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 97-03-10 07:17:45 EST From: vhong@fir.fbc.com (Victor Hong) World War II rent regulations were enforced very thoroughly, even after 1945, in an attempt to keep middle-class families in New York? Obviously, this policy worked very well, particularly in the South Bronx. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Comment on Landlord Access for repairs ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:28:21 -0800 From: a dedicated tenant attorney Subject: your response to Marie You probably don't know this, but 28 R.C.N.Y. (Rules of the City of New York) Section 25-101 reqires seven days' notice, in writing, when a landlord seeks access to do repairs. The R.C.N.Y. are the administrative regulations promulgated by NYC agencies (e.g., the Loft Board, or, in this case, HPD). ------------------------------------------------------------------ [end 3/11/97] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Thu Mar 13 07:09:53 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA24953 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 07:09:53 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA24943 for <>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 07:09:36 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970313115148.0c8f2234> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 06:51:48 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: East Side Rent Regulation Forum -- Tonight 3/13/97 Sender: Precedence: bulk There will be an East Side Rent Regulation Forum at Hunter College Assembly Hall tonight, Thursday, March 13th at 7:30 p.m. sponsored by the East Side Tenants Coalition and the City and Suburban Housing Tenants Association. Speakers include Roy Goodman, Andrew Eristoff and Gifford Miller. For more information call 212-249-0582. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Thu Mar 13 08:41:20 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA00888 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:41:20 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA00874 for <>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:41:11 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970313132312.0de72e36> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:23:12 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: Picket NYC Council Speaker Peter Vallone - Friday 3/14/97 Sender: Precedence: bulk STOP PETER VALLONE FROM ENDING BASIC TENANT PROTECTIONS - NYC Council Speaker Peter Vallone continues to block the repeal of Vacancy Decontrol that he and his landlord buddies rammed through the City Council in 1994. - Tenants across NYC will picket Peter Vallone at his District Office tomorrow, Friday March 14. This is for ALL NYC TENANTS, not just Queens. When: Friday March 14 from 4-7:00 PM Where: Vallone's District Office 22-45 31st Street in Astoria, Queens Take the "N" train to the last stop (31st St. and Ditmars Blvd). And after you picket, go into the Astoria commercial area, find a nice restaurant and have a good meal. Make a point to talk to the owner/manager of the restaurant and tell him or her that if Vallone's Decontrol continues, his constituents (and their customers) will no longer have enough disposable income to keep small business alive. AND IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE PICKET LINE Phone, Fax and Email Peter Vallone: see below Vallone's former aide Joe Strasburg (now head of the landlord trade group Rent Stabilization Association) made sure that all vacant apartments face the possibility of being decontrolled. Tenants face increases in harassment as landlords attempt to empty apartments, raise rents and eliminate lease protections. And with less rent regulated apartments, Vallone and Strasburg create the myth that rent regulation is only available to the privileged. Vallone is telling callers to his office that he "supports" tenant protections, but his version actually continues Vacancy Decontrol. Reports indicate that the Repeal of Vacancy Decontrol could actually pass the City Council if given a fair hearing, and that would send a strong message to Albany to renew the rent laws without weakening amendments. But Vallone is blocking all attempts to let elected city council members decide for themselves. He's blocking the introduction of a bill by Council members Stanley Michels and Virginia Fields, and threatening other council members with retaliation if they vote their conscience. Join the picket line and demand the End of Vacancy Decontrol. Demand that Speaker Vallone support the Michels/Fields renewal bill. NYC does not need obscene rents advocated by Vallone, Strasburg and Joe Bruno. Send the message to Albany: renew the rent laws with no weakening amendments. What else you can do... Phone Vallone: call and fax Speaker Vallone: a city-wide phone-in continues. Express yourself on his plan to continue decontrol. Call and fax all Vallone's numbers below City Hall Phone (212) 788-7210 / Fax (212) 788-7207 District Phone (718) 274-4500 / Fax (718) 726-0357 For more information call: Astoria Concerned Neighbors: 718-274-0717 Queens League of United Tenants: 718-261-8015 Met Council on Housing: 212-693-0553. [end] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From Sat Mar 15 05:22:40 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA11204 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 05:22:40 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA11196; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 05:22:21 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970315100426.3d674ef0> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 05:04:26 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: NYTENANTS 3/15/97 Sender: Precedence: bulk NYTENANTS 3/15/97 - In this issue: 1. ABC's sleazy "journalism" 2. Corruption in NYC Civil Court 3. NY Times Non-Reporting 4. Peter Vallone 5. Lease Protection 6. Security Deposits 7. Harassment 8. March 27th - Public Housing Action Day 9. Advice on tenant-installed appliances ------------------------------------------------------------------ FLASH... Vallone pushes continuing Decontrol Bill through NYC Council Housing Committee. More info later. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------ More on: ABC's sleazy "journalism" ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:44:06 +0000 From: anita culp Subject: ABC's sleazy "journalism" I tried to log a complaint with ABC over the "Primetime" story (and fiction it was!) on rent regulation. I was not too surprised to find that "email is down, please see our FAQ page"! Guess we'll have to resort to snailmail. Also, on another front, the Village Democratic Club is having a meeting tonight on the threatened repeal of rent regulations. Sheldon Silver is speaking. I thought I'd read somewhere that he's merely posing as a tenant advocate, but is not really supporting us. Do you know what his position is? TenantNet: Many Democrats give good speeches but do little to clean up DHCR or the court system. Silver is not viewed as being pro-tenant and has supported landlord-backed candidates. Silver has introduced Assembly Bill #2 which he claims is pro-tenant legislation (there are a few good items in there and a number of horrible things). Overall it's lousy legislation. He claims it's a starting point for negotiations with the republicans, but it's really a poison pill (designed to fail) so when he does eventually "cave in" he can wash his hands and say he tried -- a way for him and fellow Democrats to insulate themselves from accountability. Most NYC tenant groups rejected this legislation last year. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Corruption in NYC Civil Court ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: DeeLuv1957@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:30:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Corruption in NYC Civil Court Judges are violating the rights of tenants and many of us feel hopeless. Housing court administration seems to just slap the hands of those reported. To my knowledge there is but one place to file a complaint and that is w/the Administrative judge. That's it for Housing Court Judges. This can't continue and if someone wishes to share information as to how to remedy this matter, please let me know. I know that attorneys who eventually wish to become JUDGES are not interested in "making waves." Many tenants are losing their apartments due to improprieties of judges. I can't believe that Judge Scott was the only bad apple in the bag. TenantNet: Judge Scott of Manhattan Housing Court was caught accepting bribes, but taking money is not the only form of corruption, or of corrupting the law. You wonder why it's so bad? Guess who picks who the judges will be -- you guessed it -- landlords. For details, see the page on the Housing Court Advisory Council on the web site. ------------------------------------------------------------------ NY Times Non-Reporting ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:06:21 -0500 From: "HILTON OR JUNE W. SIEGEL" Subject: NY Times Non-Reporting How can we get the NY Times to report on the daily events concerning the rent laws and the 2.6 million people it will affect? Is their editorial and reporting policy to report on "All the News that Fit to Print" only if it affects the wealthy? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Peter Vallone ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:33:57 -0800 From: Marcia Lemmon Subject: Peter Vallone Hey there - while I wouldn't expect Peter Vallone & company to have an e-mail address, his office sponsers a home page for the City Council. On that page, is a way to give Speaker Vallone feedback. The e-mail address is: mailto:feedback@csu.council.nyc.ny.us TenantNet: We called Vallone's office and the computer department said Vallone's email was vallone@csu.council.nyc.ny.us (but we haven't tried it). ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lease Protection ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 16:10:00 -0500 From: Maria Chapan Subject: re: Lease Protection If anyone has any information regarding "Lease Protection" please advise, as a "new " apartment renter, I am basically un-aware of the laws that are out there to protect the "renter". As of the past week I am having a problem with the landlord, and I have a lot of questions. THANK YOU for your help TenantNet: "Lease Protection" can mean many things. If you are rent stabilized in NYC, one of the basic protections offered is that owner's are required to offer you a renewal lease at the legal rent and on the same terms and conditions as the expiring lease. You can get a good overview of the complicated rent laws on the web site. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Security Deposits ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: DogTalking@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:32:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Security Deposits I have a question about my security deposit. I'll try to be brief in explaining the situation. When I signed my lease 9 years ago, I thought I heard my landlord say that he was putting the security deposit in an interest bearing account. It doesn't say this on my original lease. Now I have given 60 days notice that I am moving and not asking to renew my lease. I asked him what about the interest on my security. His lawyer just happened to be right there and she told us that he was never required to do that. I am renting this apartment in a co-op building. My landlord owns this apartment and rents it to me, in other words. I know that it is not rent regulated or stabilized, but I just wonder if it is really true that he is not required to put the security in a separate account that would be earning a lot of interest by now. TenantNet: From the CTRC Fact Sheet #6 on the web site: "The NYS General Obligations Law provides that all rent security deposit moneys, plus accrued interest, if any, be held in trust by the landlord, separate from the landlord's own funds. The term "in trust" means that the moneys collected for a rent security deposit remain the property of the tenant and must be placed in an individual tenant account. In buildings of six or more apartments, the law requires all deposits be held in interest-bearing accounts in a bank within New York State. In smaller buildings, the landlord is not required to hold deposit moneys in an interest-bearing account, but if he does, the interest earned becomes the property of the tenant." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Harassment ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: CitizensH@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:08:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Harassment I am currently researching New York State and New York City Laws pertaining to harassment of individuals in rental units. I am aware of the RSL, but am wondering what other protections are provided to tenants in unregulated units. TenantNet: To put it simply, there are no harassment provisions in real life, no matter that there are laws on the books. The RSL provisions are rarely enforced by DHCR and the courts have changed the meaning from the type of harassing activities performed by landlords to whether or not tenants can prove what they term "intentional infliction of emotional distress." That means one must prove intent (near impossible) and must also show one was emotionally affected. And of course that's a loaded phrase that involves psychological evaluations and more. About once every five years you hear about harassment charges, but that's only on the most egregious cases, where the landlord was caught hitting the tenant with a baseball bat or things like that -- that they cannot look the other way. For unregulated tenants the only thing I know is the "Retaliatory Eviction" claim one can allege as a defense to an eviction case. That's in Real Property Law section 223-b. Even that is limited. ------------------------------------------------------------------ March 27th - Public Housing Action Day ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:21:58 -0500 From: Sharsher@aol.com Subject: March 27th - Public Housing Action Day Residents and supporters across the country are participating in a local action day on March 27th. The purpose of March 27th is to send Congress and President Clinton the message that they should protect the federal government's investment in public and Section 8 housing. Tenants are concerned that Congress is moving very quickly on Congressman Lazio's newest bill HR 2. that would change the lives of people who live in public housing. We are concerned that Congress and President Clinton will cut public and subsidized housing programs --again. The Center for Community Change has a Campaign Kit which can be obtained from Jennfier Anderson at (718) 636-3486 ext 6445 or Othello Poulard at (202) 342-0519. In Upstate New York we are still in the planning stages but we will have some action. We would be happy to share information and here of other actions being planned. Sharon Sherman - Greater Syracuse Tenants Network - sharsher@aol.com 315-475-8092 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Advice on tenant-installed appliances ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:52:01 -0500 From: a Manhattan tenant Subject: Advice on tenant-installed appliances I was in landlord-tenant court this morning before Judge Howard Malatzky, a very fine judge who in the course of hearing the facts of the case lectured me and the people in the courtroom about tenant rights. He said no one should ever buy their appliances from the landlord unless they plan on moving out within three years. If they want new ones, they should install them personally instead of paying the extra 1/40th of the cost per month forever. All the tenant has to do is NOTIFY the landlord of the purchase of the new appliance and request that the old one be moved before the new one is delivered. The landlord's agent, lied about the landlord's reponsibility to fix or replace our non-working refrigerator and oven, AND about our right to install our own appliances, but the judge said "the fact that she lied to you isn't relevant" because once we sign the paper telling the landlord to put in the new appliances there is nothing, the judge says, we or he can do about it the eternal 1/40th charge. The only thing the landlord can object to is "material alteration" of an apartment. Replacing appliances or even a sink is, according to past decisions of Judge Malatzky that have been upheld on appeal, not a material alteration. TenantNet: In Nestor v. McDowell, 81 NY2d 410 (1993), the lower court found a technical breach of lease for the tenants' installing a washing machine and associated plumbing. Before rushing to install your own appliances or improvements, one should study this issue a bit more carefully. Each case may have its own spin. Maybe our tenant-lawyers on this list would like to chime in on this issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------ [end 3/15/97] ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From owner-nytenants-announce Fri Mar 21 10:06:28 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA26922 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:06:28 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA26902 for <>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:06:15 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.16.19970321094752.2987a94c> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (16) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:48:02 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: Rent Law Renewal in NY City Council: Fri. 3/21/97 9 a.m. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: Precedence: bulk As the NY City Council prepares to vote this coming Tuesday, March 25 on the renewal of Rent Stabilization and Rent Control, lobbying and positioning among city council members has become fast and furious. We have a lot of news to disseminate, some good and some bad, so we'll try to catch you up to speed in this and subsequent messages. First, for AOL users who did not get (or only partially got) our last email digest of two days ago, we discovered that the wonderful AOL software converted the digest into a downloadable text file. Some users did not realize there was much more and only saw the first 2k of the message. We're in touch with AOL on this issue and are seeking a way to find a fix. In the meantime, we'll try to make the digests smaller so it won't trigger the 32k limit for AOL software. TODAY: I know this is late notice, but once again tenants are going to picket NYC Council Speaker Peter Vallone for his continuing stance on maintaining Vacancy Decontrol. He is misinforming tenants by raising the "high income" decontrol issue, which has absolutely nothing to do with Vacancy Decontrol, or what is also called "High Rent Decontrol". In the last week, with all the protests (and his reported desire to run for Governor), he has moved a smidgen. More on that later, but tenants need to keep the pressure on and tell Vallone he needs to repeal the High Rent Vacancy Decontrol that he and his landlord buddies pushed through City Council in 1994. The bill that Vallone & landlords are pushing is "Intro 920-A" which has some flowery language, but nothing else of substance. The bill that Tenants have pushed for is "Intro 930". That bill (formerly know as the Michels/Fields bill) was not reported out of Housing Committee and will be offered as an amendment on the floor of the City Council. Technically it is no longer known as "Intro 930", but the amendment to Repeal Vacancy Decontrol. More on the details later, but if you call, make sure you demand they support the Repeal of Vacancy Decontrol and NOT Vallone's bill, 920-A. When: Friday March 21 from 4:30-6:30 PM Where: Vallone's District Office 22-45 31st Street in Astoria, Queens Take the "N" train to the last stop (31st St. and Ditmars Blvd). For more information, call Astoria Concerned Neighbors at (718) 274-0717. What else you can do... Phone Vallone: call and fax Speaker Vallone. Email is nice, but they often don't read email, so call & fax. City Hall Phone (212) 788-7210 / Fax (212) 788-7207 District Phone (718) 274-4500 / Fax (718) 726-0357 [end 3/21/97] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From owner-nytenants-announce Sat Mar 22 18:11:46 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA16333 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:11:46 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA16324 for <>; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:11:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.16.19970322175249.2d47a712> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (16) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:53:00 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: Open Access to Governmental Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: Precedence: bulk OPEN ACCESS TO GOVERNMENT INFORMATION - When we get a few minutes respite from the Rent Wars, we hope to discuss various aspects of access to government information. This is an area we're deeply interested in. Even now, we're preparing to sue the New York State Division of Housing and Community Renewal (DHCR) for their failure to release the body of their decisions to the public. The 5,800 decisions currently on TenantNet (which represents a small portion of what is available), was only released after we threatened legislative action against the agency in 1994. The following is from Citizens for Open Access to Legislation (COAL), a "good government" group in Albany with whom we've worked and agree on many of their issues. They can be reached at neale@servtech.com. Common Cause is another group that is working to open up access to campaign finance records. This issue is important for tenants as many wonder how tenants have so little power. It's simple: both major political parties are taking gobs of money from real estate interests either directly or through Politcial Action Committees. Many of the legislators who claim to be friends of tenants get this money. You figure it out. *********************** C.O.A.L. Update 3/22/97 o PLAY IT AGAIN, GEORGE/JOE/SHEL . . . Is Albany setting us up for a replay of last year's losing battle over the public's right to have easy access to campaign finance information? Assemblywoman Sandra Galef (D-Ossining) has introduced a bill to require the Board of Elections to implement electronic filing. Assembly Bill A2415, like the bill she introduced last session, would require candidates spending more than fifty thousand dollars to submit their information in electronic form. As soon as information is verified, it would be made available via the Internet and other public media. You may recall that State Senate leaders responded to last year's effort by a) ignoring it; b) announcing that they would introduce their own bill, which would "out-sunshine" the Assembly's bill; c) introducing a decoy, which was allowed to die; and eventually d) sending to the other chamber a bill which, although it had many of the same goals, imposed punitive reporting requirements on labor unions. In the opinion of many observers, that was an intentional poison pill, deliberately sabotaging any chance for action on this crucial reform issue. o ALTERNATE ROUTE ALSO HAS ROADBLOCKS . . . The Board of Elections, which is charged with, among other things "...the preservation of citizen confidence in the democratic process..." could theoretically act on its own to implement electronic filing and access. But while the State of Minnesota has a bill before its legislature to study the possibility of actually voting via the Internet, and many rural municipalities in our state have pages on the World Wide Web, our State Board of Elections can't seem to find a way to keep its records in digital form, so that ordinary citizens can access them. Of course, electronic filing would mean that the Board would lose its justification for hiding those records in file cabinets in Albany. There would no longer be any excuse for failing to make those records available to us in a useful form, and in a timely manner. Anyone with rudimentary computer skills would have a chance to use simple information processing tools; search, sort, cut-and-paste; to put together an accurate picture of who paid what to whom and when. Citizens would be able to combine this with voting information and draw their own conclusions about whether or not any individual legislator is for sale. Politicians plainly view this prospect with as much enthusiasm as vampires view a suntan, and for pretty much the same reason. Here's what's happened so far: the Board submitted its request, as it has for the past several years, for an appropriation to begin computerizing election records. And the Governor, as again is the case for the past several years, rejected it. The drill was modified slightly this year; in addition to rejecting the Board's proposal, Governor Pataki's proposed budget will REDUCE its funding by $67,000. The Board of Elections has equal numbers of members from both parties, to avoid the appearance of partisanship. But partisanship is not really the problem. The problem is that at the nexus of power, politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle have a common interest in keeping campaign finance information functionally unavailable. And appearance of impartiality or no, the Board itself is an arm of the political machine. More about the Board's stalling on reform issues next time. As noted at the beginning of this update, the Legislature could always make the Board's inaction moot by coming to some agreement on one of the many electronic filing bills introduced each session. So far, caught between public clamor for open government and adamant behind-the-scenes opposition from the leadership, lawmakers have predictably opted to cover their political butts with an endless succession of one-house bills. Activists must continue pounding home the point that warring political parties -- who otherwise devote most of their energy to publicly demonizing each other -- have no problem cooperating to keep useful information out of the hands of citizens. Both parties are all too keenly aware that the status quo is maintainable only so long as they can continue to hide their links to special-interest money. o THE BIG BUDGET BATTLE MEETS THE GIANT PAY RAISE SCAM . . . For the fourteenth year in a row, New York State's budget is not expected to be in place until long after the legally-mandated deadline of April first. Some observers speculate that 1997 could see the latest state budget agreement in history. Think this is a trivial problem? Here's just one area of impact: interest that school districts had to pay last year because of the late budget totaled half a BILLION dollars. Half a billion dollars that came out of your pocket and mine, money that could have been spent to improve education or health care, was instead wasted by our lawmakers on partisan wrangling. These battles were not over lofty matters of principle. They were the moral equivalent of toddlers squabbling in the sandbox over who gets to use the pail and shovel first. This happens because state legislators have abdicated their individual decision-making responsibility. Leaders set the agenda, control the committees, and give the rank and file prefabricated deals to rubber-stamp. The inability of the top few people to share power amicably becomes the limiting factor in conducting the business of state government. Now, stung by criticism that their behind-the-scenes wheeling and dealing is what really holds up the budget, legislative leaders are said to be drafting an innovative scheme for meeting the constitutional budget deadline. Their creative solution: bribery! Recall last December's post-election special session, when the idea of voting on a legislative pay raise was met with such a blast of public negativity that it was reluctantly abandoned. Three months later, leaders are rumored to be brokering a newer and more devious deal: if all parties to the budget discussions sign on to unspecified compromises right now, in time to make the April first deadline, everyone will be "taken care of." Leaders will orchestrate a "cost-of-living" increase in legislative salaries. Albany spin doctors are being prepped to stress that this is NOT a legislative pay raise (wink, nudge). It is simply an "adjustment" for hard-working legislators. Whether or not legislators deserve more money, tying it to their acceptance of a miraculously on-time budget is just one more example of the sort of transparently venal legislative deal-making that causes so many New Yorkers to turn away from their newspapers and TV screens in disgusted disbelief. Will the lure of more pocket money turn the trick, so to speak? Here's my fearless prediction for the outcome of the 1997 Big Budget Battle: the Legislature will set a record, one way or the other. Either the bribery ploy will work, delivering a tainted but punctual budget, or its failure will fuel a new cycle of petty haggling -- dragging on into the fall, eclipsing the worst previous late budget record by a month or more. o ACTION ITEMS . . . o Call your State Senator. Ask him/her to sponsor a Senate companion bill to A2415 to enact computerization of campaign finance information. o Ask your Assembly representative to sign on to A2415. Though the Assembly passed it, a long list of sponsors makes it embarrassingly obvious that the Senate is holding up something people really want. Reginald Neale, Secretary C.O.A.L. (Citizens for Open Access to Legislation) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice. From owner-nytenants-announce Mon Mar 24 07:36:19 1997 Received: (from root@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA09727 for nytenants-announce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:36:19 -0500 Received: from ( [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA09708 for <>; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:36:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970324071724.45ff4e54> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:17:24 -0500 To: From: TenantNet <> Subject: Tonight at 7 PM: Housing Forum at City Hall Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: Precedence: bulk Monday March 24th -- Tonight at 7 PM: Housing Forum at City Hall - The Oscars won't begin till nine and here's a chance to give landlord buddies City Council Speaker Peter Vallone and Antonio Pagan a piece of your mind before City Council votes on continuing Rent Regulation on Tuesday, March 25. Perhaps in an attempt to co-opt the issue, Peter Vallone -- who remains under severe criticism for his Pro-Decontrol policies -- has scheduled a "Housing Forum" at City Hall tonight at 7:00 p.m. If you can't come, it is supposed to be televised live by cable channel NY1 News. (And perhaps this will also set a record for media coverage of housing issues in more than thirty-second clips.) Pagan, who will be one of several panel members at the forum, is running for Manhattan Borough President and is notorious for his pro-landlord policies. It was reported to us that during Housing Committee hearings on March 11th, Pagan ripped up tenant literature that was handed to him. Pagan also appointed Ray Cline to Community Board 5 who, as Manager of the embattled Longacre SRO Hotel, was reportedly put in jail for allegedly conducting illegal evictions. See related stories at: http://tenant.net/Tengroup/Metcounc/Oct96/longacre.html http://hellskitchen.net/issues/bprez.html Vallone, who is sponsoring the forum, allegedly made threats to City Council member Stanley Michels over his sponsorship of the Michels/ Fields bill (Intro. 930) that would have repealed Vacancy Decontrol imposed by Vallone and his former chief aid, Landlord leader Joe Strasburg. Michels apparently caved into Vallone's pressure on March 14. Although it was claimed by sources at City Hall that tenant groups had approved Vallone's bill, 920-A (that would continue Vacancy Decontrol), after a week of checking, not one single tenant group has owned up to approving or even acquiesing to Vallone's bill. For the full text of both Vallone's Intro 920-A and what was known as the Michels/Fields bill, Intro 930, see TenantNews at: http://tenant.net/tenantnews/nyc/news.cgi If you can make the forum, please show up early as it's anticipated Vallone will try to "stack" the meeting with his landlord friends. Come with hard-hitting questions for the panel. If Vallone is serious about running for Governor, he should know that his policies are unacceptable. The full text announcing the Housing Forum follows: ************************ The Council of the City of New York Office of Communications City Council City Hall (212) 788-7116 City Council to Hold Public Forum on Housing Crisis in New York City "The Housing Crisis in New York City" will be the focus of another in a monthly series of City Council Forums designed to address major issues affecting New York City and its residents. The forum will be held in the Council Chambers at City Hall on Monday, March 24, 1997 from 7-8 p.m. It is open to the media and will be carried live by New York 1 News. The audience will be made up of members of the public who will be invited to comment and ask questions of the panel. "One of the basics of life is your home," said Speaker Peter F. Vallone. "Affordable housing, good housing, ways to solve New York City's Housing Crisis -- those are the issues our panel of experts will be addressing. We all know the problems. Now, we hope, we can learn more about the solutions." Participants in Monday's forum will be: o Antonio Pagan, Chair, Subcommittee on Abandonment, Foreclosure and Disinvestment o Helen M. Marshall, Member of the Committee on Housing and Buildings o Anne Pasmanick, Executive Director, Community Training and Resource Center o Claire Haaga, President, Housing and Services, Inc. o Frank Braconi, Executive Direcctor, Citizens Housing and Planning Council The forum moderator will be former WCBS Radio anchor Harvey Hauptman. ### ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tenant Network for Residential Tenants TenantNet: http://tenant.net NYTenants Interactive: http://nytenant.net NYTenants Express: http://members.aol.com/nytenant email: NYtenants Discussion List: email to and in the body of the message put "subscribe nytenants". Information from TenantNet is from experienced non-attorney tenant activists and is not considered legal advice.