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Posted by Mark Smith on March 21, 1999 at 10:00:07:

In Reply to: Slumlord says we agreed to pay for ENTIRE property electricity! posted by Maureen in Ozone Park on March 20, 1999 at 08:28:33:

Anna gave you good advice, while TenantNet gave you only so-so advice. In fact, the landlord has to remove you from this illegal building in a holdover proceeding, probably in state Supreme Court. The landlord can't try to raise the rent and bring a non-payment proceeding, if you don't agree to the new rent.But I believe that you recently posted similar questions, under a different name, about these same issues. Several people gave you good advice. In particular, I told you about the Certificate of Occupancy and the Multiple Dwelling Registration. I cited specific sections of the Multiple Dwelling Law.I, for one, don't like to see my advice ignored. Do you want help, or do you just like to post messages?: Hello! I have had nothing but heartache from landlords...and THEY bitch about the tenant from hell! HA! My current landlord who is either Megnauth Ramanand or Ramanand Sukhai (because they never actually told us who owns this crumbling wreck) has had our apartment on a shared meter for the duration of our tenancy (about 3 years now because we can't afford to move...we are almost able, we are really desperate now to leave!) and we wondered why we paid 78 dollars a month in electric bills!!! So now we brought Con Edison in to investigate, and the representative found that yes we had been paying for the ILLEGAL cellar apartment and the hallways electricity. He was unable to confirm the rest of the house (a 2 family illegally converted to a three family by cramming a family into the cellar) on or off our line. So now the landlord has been told to pay us back. So what do they do? They tell the authorities that WE AGREED to pay for the WHOLE PROPERTY's electricity in a rental agreement!! We never had a lease ! There is no agreement, and you would have to be absolutely BONKERS to agree to such a ridiculous thing. We have spoken t

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: Anna gave you good advice, while TenantNet gave you only so-so advice.  In fact, the landlord has to remove you from this illegal building in a holdover proceeding, probably in state Supreme Court.  The landlord can't try to raise the rent and bring a non-payment proceeding, if you don't agree to the new rent.But I believe that you recently posted similar questions, under a different name, about these same issues.  Several people gave you good advice.  In particular, I told you about the Certificate of Occupancy and the Multiple Dwelling Registration.  I cited specific sections of the Multiple Dwelling Law.I, for one, don't like to see my advice ignored.  Do you want help, or do you just like to post messages?: Hello! I have had nothing but heartache from landlords...and THEY bitch about the tenant from hell! HA! My current landlord who is either Megnauth Ramanand or Ramanand Sukhai (because they never actually told us who owns this crumbling wreck) has had our apartment on a shared meter for the duration of our tenancy (about 3 years now because we can't afford to move...we are almost able, we are really desperate now to leave!) and we wondered why we paid 78 dollars a month in electric bills!!! So now we brought Con Edison in to investigate, and the representative found that yes we had been paying for the ILLEGAL cellar apartment and the hallways electricity. He was unable to confirm the rest of the house (a 2 family illegally converted to a three family by cramming a family into the cellar) on or off our line. So now the landlord has been told to pay us back. So what do they do? They tell the authorities that WE AGREED to pay for the WHOLE PROPERTY's electricity in a rental agreement!! We never had a lease ! There is no agreement, and you would have to be absolutely BONKERS to agree to such a ridiculous thing. We have spoken t


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