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Posted by satori on March 12, 1999 at 19:41:13:

In Reply to: Helens advice is correct Re: It's gonna take more than "God Bless"! posted by satori on March 12, 1999 at 19:22:26:

If the judge gives you crap. Which he or she just might , there pro-landlord.
expaln to them the history of the plea bargining process ,which last
time I read the laws states its still illegal. most lawyers do it all the time. lets settle, they say.
The irony is , the lawyers should be locked up for even contempaling the
question as to talk to you in the hallway. There was in the 1940s strict
rules against it. the rules still exist that say they can't , but,
they the laywers know there not applied.Most judges don't even know the
law so dopn't be afraid to educate them should the situation come up.

: When i was in housing court pro se, the landlords attorney tryed shouting at
: me to go into the hallway.In the confusion of it all, you dopn't know
: if the ccourt is calling you or the adversary. Well, all i did was stay, in the
: court andsay to the court officer am i required to answer the lawyers
: questions? I knew i was not, but, they sort of figured I would fall
: into the trap.Well , there atttorney tyyed to then talk to me
: in the court room , I still refused figuring they dragged me into court
: in the first place, then they started to act as if they were my attorney, giving me kind advice
: about the proceedings.but i did not talk to them unless the judge directed me

: Thats true you don't even have to talk to there attorney, in the court house.If the judge tells
: you to have conference out of hsis or her presense request that you have
: a court officer present.
: to.

: : You're right, not to go alone - at this point I am financially and emotionally bankrupt! . . .
: : :
: : :

: : : I've heard of asking the judge (making a motion, probably) to remove an attorney from a case, usually for conflict of interest or prior bad acts. I think you really really need your own attorney. You said you filed bankruptcy, have you filed for 'poor person' status in Housing Court? Don't they assign you an attorney if they grant it? Or is that only with the Guardian status?

: : : Some practical advice, if you don't mind: do not go to court alone, if at all possible. Do not speak to that attorney at all. Stay in the courtroom, near the clerk or the officer. Get there earlier than them, stay in the courtroom after they leave.

: : : Are you the one from the SRO? There is a special SRO legal project to help SRO tenants: wish I could remember where I saw that: try in the Met Council newspaper (copies of articles are on Tenant.net), or maybe it was thru Legal Aid....

: : : Wish I had more answers... God Bless.

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: If the judge gives you crap. Which he or she just might , there pro-landlord.
: expaln to them the history of the plea bargining process ,which last
: time I read the laws states its still illegal. most lawyers do it all the time. lets settle, they say.
: The irony is , the lawyers should be locked up for even contempaling the 
:  question as to talk  to you in the hallway. There was in the 1940s strict
: rules against it. the rules still exist that say they can't , but,
: they the laywers know there not applied.Most judges don't even know the 
:  law so dopn't be afraid to educate them should the situation come up.


: : When i was in housing court pro se, the landlords attorney tryed shouting at
: :  me to go into the hallway.In the confusion of it all, you dopn't know
: :  if the ccourt is calling you or the adversary. Well, all i did was stay, in the 
: :  court andsay to the court officer am i required to answer  the lawyers 
: :  questions? I knew i was not, but, they sort of figured I would fall 
: :  into the trap.Well , there atttorney tyyed to then talk to me 
: :  in the court room , I still refused figuring they dragged me into court
: :  in the first place, then they started to act as if they were my attorney, giving me kind advice
: :  about the proceedings.but i did not talk to them unless the judge directed me

: : Thats true you don't even have to talk to there attorney, in the court house.If the judge tells 
: :  you to have conference out of hsis or her presense request that you have 
: :  a court officer present.
: :  to.


: : : You're right, not to go alone - at this point I am financially and emotionally bankrupt! . . . 
: : : : 
: : : : 

: : : : I've heard of asking the judge (making a motion, probably) to remove an attorney from a case, usually for conflict of interest or prior bad acts.  I think you really really need your own attorney.  You said you filed bankruptcy, have you filed for 'poor person' status in Housing Court?  Don't they assign you an attorney if they grant it?  Or is that only with the Guardian status? 

: : : : Some practical advice, if you don't mind: do not go to court alone, if at all possible.  Do not speak to that attorney at all.  Stay in the courtroom, near the clerk or the officer.  Get there earlier than them, stay in the courtroom after they leave.

: : : : Are you the one from the SRO? There is a special SRO legal project to help SRO tenants: wish I could remember where I saw that: try in the Met Council newspaper (copies of articles are on Tenant.net), or maybe it was thru Legal Aid....

: : : : Wish I had more answers... God Bless. 


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