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Posted by satori on February 05, 1999 at 03:12:03:

In Reply to: You obviously have no idea what RICO is and how it works posted by MikeW on February 04, 1999 at 13:47:38:

Well perhaps, your right , but you left out some things, in order for it to
be extortion, it does not have to be and actual official of the state, it can be done in the color of being and official of the state
or role, of authority. It does not have to be in your eye extortion, for if it were, you would
be able to go to the authorities,right away. Most of the time a person finds out
they have been ripped off years later. I thouught RICO is also a civil
statute in federal court as well.,and, it does not have to be a large group, the way I read
it's just discussing with another person and in thus makes it a
conspiracy. In fact, when I went to some housing conferences,
I read some literature were a large housing complex sued the landlord, under
the federal civil stature RICO, and there was no mention of there having
to be a criminal conviction first. And they were able to gain ownership
of the building from the landlord for $1.I do know something about, It (RICO) I have
read about it in law libaries ectera.And the law how I read it
specifically states that they don't have to be in the actual role
as say a corrupt politician. They only have to go thru the motions
of acting in and official duty, or claiming to be and authority
about something. I'm sorry, I think its stealing and worse even
the worst form of extortion to use fear to get more rent then what
what the legal reasonable rate of rent is.Its still extortion in my book.

: RICO only applies to situations where you have a group of people participating in an organized pattern of bribery (illegal version, campaign contributions don't count), extortion, theft, or violence, or other criminal wrongdoing. There have been some isolated instances where this has happened in landlord-tenant disputes, but it is very rare.

: Usually, even if a landlord is abusive, he is only violating civil, as opposed to criminal laws. This means he can be sued, but not arrested. And most housing court cases are straight up and down eviction type proceedings. Even if the are legally interesting, they only involve civil law matters.

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: Well perhaps, your right , but you left out some things, in order for it to 
: be extortion, it does not have to be and actual official of the state, it can be done in the color  of being and official of the state
: or role, of authority. It does not have to be in your eye extortion, for if it were, you would 
:  be able to go to the authorities,right away. Most of the time a person finds out 
:  they have been ripped off years later. I thouught RICO is also a civil 
:  statute in federal court as well.,and, it does not have to be a large group, the way I read 
:  it's just discussing with another person and in thus makes it a 
:  conspiracy. In fact, when I went to some housing conferences, 
:  I read some literature were a large housing complex sued the landlord, under 
: the federal civil stature RICO, and there was no mention of there having 
:  to be a criminal conviction first. And they were able to gain ownership 
:  of the building from the landlord for $1.I do know something about, It (RICO) I have 
:  read about it in law libaries ectera.And the law how I read it 
:  specifically states that they don't have to be in the actual role 
:  as say a corrupt politician. They only have to go thru the motions
:  of acting in and official duty, or claiming to be and authority 
: about something. I'm sorry, I think its stealing and worse even
: the worst form of extortion to use fear to get more rent then what
: what the  legal reasonable rate of rent is.Its still extortion in my book.




: : RICO only applies to situations where you have a group of people participating in an organized pattern of bribery (illegal version, campaign contributions don't count), extortion, theft, or violence, or other criminal wrongdoing.  There have been some isolated instances where this has happened in landlord-tenant disputes, but it is very rare.

: : Usually, even if a landlord is abusive, he is only violating civil, as opposed to criminal laws.  This means he can be sued, but not arrested.  And most housing court cases are straight up and down eviction type proceedings.  Even if the are legally interesting, they only involve civil law matters.


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