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Posted by Anna on August 17, 1999 at 22:54:51:

In Reply to: Re: eviction based on owner occupancy posted by Mark Smith on August 17, 1999 at 12:24:16:

: : : I have an aunt who has lived in the same apartment in NYC for 29 years.
: : : The apartment was rent controlled until 8 years ago and is currently rent
: : : stabilized at $500/month.

: I'm surprised that Anna didn't ask, but if your aunt has lived in the same apartment for 29 years, how did it switch from rent control to rent stabilization 8 years ago?

I didn't ask because the answer is always the same: LL sued for some reason, as part of the settlement/stipulation, tenant agrees to change to stabilization and to the price of 'first rent'.

Why the LL's want this is unknown: rent control rents have increased at a steady rate of 7.5% per year for a long time (plus fuel adj, plus MCI, etc); stabilized increases have been both smaller & less consistent. The huge vacancy allowances came back in 1997; these tenants all changed to stab before that. There seems to be less paperwork for the LL with rent stab. Eviction protections are similar. The one thing I've noticed: DHCR's approach to rent increases and code violations: almost automatically no increases with rent control, but rent stab tenants have to file for a rent reduction.

Many landlords and their lawyers and building managers act like (to quote other tenants) 'little Hilter' 'above the law' 'bullies' 'misogynists' 'psycho' 'abusive' 'megalomaniacs' 'sadists' etc: in short, they have control issues, anger issues, anti-social behavioural disorders, some are psychotic. Maybe they're allergic to the word 'control'! ;)
Why do you think LL's prefer stabilized over controlled?

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: : : : I have an aunt who has lived in the same apartment in NYC for 29 years.  
: : : : The apartment was rent controlled until 8 years ago and is currently rent 
: : : : stabilized at $500/month.  

: : I'm surprised that Anna didn't ask, but if your aunt has lived in the same apartment for 29 years, how did it switch from rent control to rent stabilization 8 years ago?

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: I didn't ask because the answer is always the same: LL sued for some reason, as part of the settlement/stipulation, tenant agrees to change to stabilization and to the price of 'first rent'.

: Why the LL's want this is unknown: rent control rents have increased at a steady rate of 7.5% per year for a long time (plus fuel adj, plus MCI, etc); stabilized increases have been both smaller & less consistent.  The huge vacancy allowances came back in 1997; these tenants all changed to stab before that.  There seems to be less paperwork for the LL with rent stab.  Eviction protections are similar.  The one thing I've noticed: DHCR's approach to rent increases and code violations: almost automatically no increases with rent control, but rent stab tenants have to file for a rent reduction.  

: Many landlords and their lawyers and building managers act like (to quote other tenants) 'little Hilter' 'above the law' 'bullies' 'misogynists' 'psycho' 'abusive' 'megalomaniacs' 'sadists' etc: in short, they have control issues, anger issues, anti-social behavioural disorders, some are psychotic.  Maybe they're allergic to the word 'control'! ;) 
: Why do you think LL's prefer stabilized over controlled?


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