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Posted by ricard on November 15, 2000 at 06:47:53:

In Reply to: illegal sublet - been fighting but am about to go under posted by David on November 14, 2000 at 21:46:48:

We need to know how you found the illegal sublet? Have you ever rented a place in NYC before? was it an ad in the newspaper or a friend of a friend of a friend?

How much is the legal rent and what were you charged? Did you get a lease or a sublet lease, or was is cash only?

This is all very important........IF you never rented an apartment in NYC before then how are you supoosed to know the law? If you have or pay cash or have no lease, then YOU KNEW it was illegal....and no judge is going to help you get an apartment that way.

Litigation is frustrating, stressful, and expensive.....its like a chess game, you make a great move and think you will win on the next move then you get blocked and the game just goes on and on and on........

You have to have a strong stomache for it........remember $800 a month for the next 10 or 20 years IS A LOT OF MONEY you can save if you get the rent stabilzed apartment where youre at now!

More details please

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: First, discovered I was being overcharged and taken advantage of (providing storage, pet car, sanitation services, & more) in a Manhattan sublet (rent stabilized). Then discovered uncountable lies, a faked sublease and cover up attempts... (all fully documented in writing.) I tried to work it out personally and was then slandered and threatened with a lawyer (at the time a lie.) (Are you sensing that the wretch is not too bright?) Unfortunately, she's so stupid she's dangerous. After her threat, I filed with a lawyer (and I can't tell if they're doing a good job and I just don't get litigation, or they're just not doing their job.) And to add a little spice - and stress - I also have a seemingly underhanded, but could just be a dolt, roomate helping her to screw things (namely: me) up.

: The original landlord died before I could speak with him (trying as I was, idiot, to solve it in a "friendly" way.) I finally got info. on the new landlord - an out of town partner and he's filing charges also. Now, she's threatened bogus charges against me in order to have leaverage... "you drop yours, I'll drop mine."

: It's a long, twisted story.

: Now, I've been approved for another (much less interesting) apt. in Brooklyn and this landlord has offered me the current apartment at a much reduced rate (lease overturn, renovate, etc... +$800, but still a better palce to be than than the other.) But, it will take (naturally) a while for the paperwork because of the legal stuff. This sort of stuff has been going, intensely, since May. So, I'm a little gun shy at this point and afraid to take any chances that I'll end up on the street soon.

: You think this is confusing; you should hear the whole story. I don't even know what I'm asking at this point, but I have to come up with the answer in 5 days. So, anyone inspired with words of wisdom or experienced opinions? Should I stay? Should I go? Should I drop the case? Should I fight? Drop the lawyer? Write a screenplay? Leave the state?

: any thoughts welcome-
: David

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:   We need to know how you found the illegal sublet?    Have you ever rented a place in NYC before?  was it an ad in the newspaper  or a friend of a friend of a friend?   

:   How much is the legal rent and what were you charged?   Did you get a lease or a sublet lease, or was is  cash only?

:   This is all very important........IF you never rented an apartment in NYC before then how are you supoosed to know the law?    If you have or pay cash or have no lease,  then YOU KNEW it was illegal....and  no judge is going to help you get an apartment that way.

:   Litigation  is frustrating, stressful, and expensive.....its like a chess game, you make a great move and think you will win on the next move then you get blocked  and the game just goes on and on and on........

:   You have to have a strong stomache for it........remember $800 a month for the next 10 or 20 years IS A LOT OF MONEY  you can save if you get the rent stabilzed apartment  where  youre at now!

:   More details  please

: ===============================================

: : First, discovered I was being overcharged and taken advantage of (providing storage, pet car, sanitation services, & more) in a Manhattan sublet (rent stabilized).  Then discovered uncountable lies, a faked sublease and cover up attempts... (all fully documented in writing.)  I tried to work it out personally and was then slandered and threatened with a lawyer (at the time a lie.)  (Are you sensing that the wretch is not too bright?)  Unfortunately, she's so stupid she's dangerous.  After her threat, I filed with a lawyer (and I can't tell if they're doing a good job and I just don't get litigation, or they're just not doing their job.)  And to add a little spice - and stress - I also have a seemingly underhanded, but could just be a dolt, roomate helping her to screw things (namely:  me) up.

: : The original landlord died before I could speak with him (trying as I was, idiot, to solve it in a "friendly" way.)  I finally got info. on the new landlord - an out of town partner and he's filing charges also.  Now, she's threatened bogus charges against me in order to have leaverage... "you drop yours, I'll drop mine."  

: : It's a long, twisted story.  

: : Now, I've been approved for another (much less interesting) apt. in Brooklyn and this landlord has offered me the current apartment at a much reduced rate (lease overturn, renovate, etc... +$800, but still a better palce to be than than the other.)  But, it will take (naturally) a while for the paperwork because of the legal stuff.  This sort of stuff has been going, intensely, since May.  So, I'm a little gun shy at this point and afraid to take any chances that I'll end up on the street soon.

: : You think this is confusing;  you should hear the whole story.  I don't even know what I'm asking at this point, but I have to come up with the answer in 5 days.  So, anyone inspired with words of wisdom or experienced opinions?  Should I stay?  Should I go?  Should I drop the case?  Should I fight?  Drop the lawyer?  Write a screenplay?  Leave the state?

: : any thoughts welcome-
: : David


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