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Posted by Anna on January 26, 2000 at 23:37:28:

In Reply to: Re: no gas/oven use for 30+ days posted by richard on January 26, 2000 at 20:04:28:

: I really cant believe it......no gas for 45 days or Virgina 's 4 months.I dont get it.

No, Richard, you really don't get it. You have no idea what it takes to fix a problem in the gas piping in an apartment building... And your approach would produce nothing but lousy L&T relations in the future.

Elisha said they're working on it. These things take time. And the city does supervise big jobs like this: all players are licensed. It is on smaller jobs that you have to worry about unlicensed plumbers.

Read about the trouble one gas leak causes in this recent case:
http://www.nylj.com/decisions/00/01/010400b3.htm

This dispute has its genesis in a kitchen renovation performed in
apartment 11C by the former sponsor of the cooperative in late 1996. As
part of the project, gas lines were moved and reconfigured. The
apartment was then sold to Peter and Mary Ross. Soon after moving
into the premises, Mrs. Ross states that she began to smell gas in the
kitchen. Con Edison was called but did not detect a leak. On January 11,
1997, Mrs. Ross states that she again detected the odor of gas in the
kitchen. Con Edison came to the premises a second time. On this
occasion a gas leak was discovered coming from a kitchen outlet. As a
result of the leak, Con Edison shut off gas service to the entire building.

In order to reinstate gas service to a building §27-922(d) of the
Administrative Code of the City of New York requires pressure testing of
the entire gas piping system. The gas lines are subjected to pressure
six times greater than what the pipes normally carry. This testing was
carried out by Gregory Quattlander, a licensed Master Plumber. The gas
piping system was unable to pass the mandated integrity tests. There
were numerous leaks in the system requiring replacement of the piping.

Here, a series of fortuitous events caused the loss. First, a gas leak was
discovered by Mrs. Ross and confirmed by Con Edison. As a result of
the gas leak in the single gas line, the building's entire gas piping system
was shut down. In order to reinstate service, the City mandated high
pressure testing of the gas piping system.

Plaintiff's contention that the high pressure tests resulted in numerous
leaks requiring replacement of the gas pipes is sustained by
Quattlander's deposition testimony.

• NYLJ: case about building wide gas shut-off

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: :   I really cant believe it......no gas for  45 days  or Virgina 's 4 months.I dont get it.

: No, Richard, you really don't get it.  You have no idea what it takes to fix a problem in the gas piping in an apartment building...  And your approach would produce nothing but lousy L&T relations in the future.

: Elisha said they're working on it.  These things take time.  And the city does supervise big jobs like this: all players are licensed.  It is on smaller jobs that you have to worry about unlicensed plumbers.

: Read about the trouble one gas leak causes in this recent case:
: http://www.nylj.com/decisions/00/01/010400b3.htm

: This dispute has its genesis in a kitchen renovation performed in
:               apartment 11C by the former sponsor of the cooperative in late 1996. As
:               part of the project, gas lines were moved and reconfigured. The
:               apartment was then sold to Peter and Mary Ross. Soon after moving
:               into the premises, Mrs. Ross states that she began to smell gas in the
:               kitchen. Con Edison was called but did not detect a leak. On January 11,
:               1997, Mrs. Ross states that she again detected the odor of gas in the
:               kitchen. Con Edison came to the premises a second time. On this
:               occasion a gas leak was discovered coming from a kitchen outlet. As a
:               result of the leak, Con Edison shut off gas service to the entire building.

:               In order to reinstate gas service to a building §27-922(d) of the
:               Administrative Code of the City of New York requires pressure testing of
:               the entire gas piping system. The gas lines are subjected to pressure
:               six times greater than what the pipes normally carry. This testing was
:               carried out by Gregory Quattlander, a licensed Master Plumber. The gas
:               piping system was unable to pass the mandated integrity tests. There
:               were numerous leaks in the system requiring replacement of the piping.

: Here, a series of fortuitous events caused the loss. First, a gas leak was
:               discovered by Mrs. Ross and confirmed by Con Edison. As a result of
:               the gas leak in the single gas line, the building's entire gas piping system
:               was shut down. In order to reinstate service, the City mandated high
:               pressure testing of the gas piping system.

:               Plaintiff's contention that the high pressure tests resulted in numerous
:               leaks requiring replacement of the gas pipes is sustained by
:               Quattlander's deposition testimony. 


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